Post #1149958 with the grass in container was a fluffier bathroom type hand towel. The container right before that one I used a thin kitchen towel. Both pieces I used the same form to drape the cloth-tufa over. It really does make a difference in texture as to what type of cloth is used. It also makes a difference whether you use perlite in your mix, or if you use vermiculite. And then there are different grades of those. My preference for cloth and cement is fine grade vermiculite.