Henry Chotkowski told me they had a really bad flood in the fields years ago and never really got their identifications down after that. He told me that he and his wife stopped by there and walked the fields on their way up to the APS convention, said that was the only way he could be sure that he'd get what he ordered. I contacted them about the Astarte that wasn't Astarte, did ask if they could id it. They credited the amount but couldn't tell me what it is. It's a very pretty peony, like it a lot but would be nice to have a name to go with it. Maybe I'll just make up my own.....maybe I'll just do NOID A through Z and just assign a name like naming hurricanes.....still need to change my tags on Adelman's Orphan as well...