They do better in certain places in my yard, so sticking with those spaces primarily has helped. They are my first love when it comes to lilies and I promised myself I was through trying to start them from seed too. Just as I say that, I see my very first oriental seedling bud (a mere 3 years). So a few crosses are bound to happen now.
The fragrance gets me every time.
You know who else has a really amazing scent? 'Opulent' Oh my!