Sometimes I have to laugh at myself when I look back at my gardening practices over the years. I decide to do one thing and then reverse the process a few years later. About 10 years ago I removed many OGR's from my garden because each one took up as much space as four or five modern roses. I filled the spaces with the mini-roses I'd been growing in pots along my driveway and with hybrid teas. Unfortunately, the minis got lost in the ground and never looked as good as they had in the pots, and the hybrid teas were mostly own-root roses from Vintage Gardens, which were fragile little darlings when I bought them and either died a quick death or remained fragile little darlings for the next 10 years. Now I'm cutting my losses and putting OGR's back in those spots. One large and healthy rose bush easily trumps five little weaklings.