@beckgardener There are so many DL forms and styles that are bred for! I can't imagine where DL's might go in the future. The idea of better scented flowers- the point behind stopping to smell them- appeals to me more than breeding for other desirable traits. Winter would take care of any rust issues and my zone 5b might suck for some plants, but the DL's do excellently. I have watered only once this year and I've never fertilized anything. Gotta love the heartiness of them!