I have and grow the two you mentioned Val both have failed to bloom so far this year ,(never had happened before )
Everybody has their own way of cleaning Tomato seeds , as long as their from ripe tomatoes , Most ferment the seeds a few days .. So do i , then I wash screen , and dry .
I have more I can add but for now I am watching , cleaning seeds and waiting ,
This one season where it does what it does
Rick I get way about seeds