Thanks everyone,I bought BES as a plant ,I am not successful starting seeds and this vine will disappear this year. Its not hardy here and I dont think it will set seeds.
I had Grampa Ott there last year. I failled to bring down the vines and now they are everywhere. No MG 's for me again.My gardens are not big enough to be climbing with vines.
Evanand SOJ, the large plant behind the BES is a deer eaten Oakleaf Hydrangea. Its a small one but even smaller this year.Deer ate all the stems to within 8 inches of the ground.I saw lwaf starts in spring so left it alone.
