Thank you
@Jvdubb,
@Tarev I think what would kill them in my climate would be the crazy winters of rain then freeze then rain then freeze again. We do not have enough of a dry period in between those below 0 temps.
The ones I am growing in the garden I got some rocks and made like a pot pocket and filled my make shift garden pot with 90% gravel and 10% soil that should give them sharp drainage.