Sorry Joey, you're absolutely right, what I'm referring to as pine straw is just dead pine needles. Great insulator and doesn't matt down as much as other mulches I've used, plus it's free to me from the pines on our land. I just try to take it from trees with few weeds under them! I used to get wood mulch delivered but it was expensive, heavy and was covered in pine needles within a year, anyway, so why fight nature?