Gene, What's fun about -2F outside? Glad I'm retired and can stay home and just look outside and enjoy this forum. I just love looking at your plants, reminds me of my childhood when they were some of my first plants. Just no where to winter over such large plants. Reason why I switched to Haworthias and small Aloes. All windows are full and got stands in basement with shop lights over them. Plus my old fishtank filled with sansevierias.