Interesting! The first time I met them it was at Iron Gate. I was chatting away with them, sitting in the shade, while Vic and Van dug my plant order. I am glad I was just making pleasant conversation!!
I thought Vic Santa Lucia was Grace's brother? I seem to remember that was how I was introduced to them when Vic and Van came back with the plants.
Seems so strange to get all those awards and be so successful and just walk away from it all.