Do Johan and Shelly hybridize? I thought they just sold Johan's dad's creations. These are hybridized by Johan senior. These were created here, just 19 miles from me. I have seen those foil stigma caps so I think it is safe to say they are hybridized here! I think Leek is a partner in the Netherlands. I do know that people from the Netherlands come out here to evaluate the seedlings.
This is not a large operation. There are two greenhouses; one for starting and growing seedlings and one for growing and continuing evaluation and hybridizing. We were not allowed in the "little" seedling greenhouse. By seedlings, I am talking about little grass like seedlings probably started earlier this year.
I am guessing that when you talk to someone on the phone it is Johan Jr. or Shelly. I don't think Sr. is involved on the retail end anymore.