It is a bit tough to get them to root during the fall and winter months. That's their dormant time, Susan. All those that I shipped were cuttings taken in Oct./Nov. and all rooted during the fall and winter. I had 67 that rooted. Those that rooted in the fall have far better root systems than those that rooted during the winter. Being outside, they are all really taking off now. Sometimes, we have to be patient, and allow Mother Nature to do her thing.