I grew a bunch from seed, they were supposed to be Coral Reef, all I got was Orange. They took 5 years to flower.. Rather just buy one and know it's pink than try from seed again and just end up with more of the wrong color again. I have tried ordering quite a few Orientales from different places. They keep dieing. I have 2 that are on their 3rd year in the ground that are tiny and not flowering. I still don't know if they are what I ordered. Meanwhile the White one and the Princess that I bought from a nursery are doing great!