wow is that one great.. my tilt a whirl didn't do well overwintering either.. I had one that I tried to do a standard with.. ended up really ugly and was full of mealy bugs the next summer.. I just let them go... oh that cutie little shiny shoes standard I bought in spring.. ended up really nice and when the hurricane came I put it next to the chimney on the ground.. boy did it get beat up.. to the point I just took cuttings and going to let it go as well ... really thought that spot was sheltered enough.. guess not