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@char has some personal vendetta against Brad Best. I'd hoped the thread would remain on topic for cristate/bearded daylilies in cooler climates but it seems personal arrogance and/or pride is more important to her. Brad has asked me to delete the thread due to the personal attacks on him and I've told him no becaue I think there is valuable information in the thread. I've asked char to remove the personal attacks from the thread and she's said no. I expect better from moderators so I've reached out to the web moderator see if there is an unbiased higher authority to weigh in. Honestly
@char you should be ashamed.
EDITED BY MODERATOR: After I locked this thread Chris came back and edited the first post to this thread on March 16, 2019 1:12pm with the comment above to get around the lock I placed to posting.
BRAD BEST was banned from this forum 8 years ago and will never be allowed to post here. So instead... he demands one of his followers do his dirty work for him. I'm not ashamed of anything and never will be. You came onto this website Chris and were welcomed by myself and other members. Sadly, this is the way the followers of BRAD BEST operate. BRAD BEST goes on the attack when anyone disagrees with him. He bully's and intimidates people, even moderators, so moderators will remove the offending posts or entire conversation of a discussion. Myself and others have seen it and been the recipients of this behavior and worse over and over for the past 10 years. NOT THIS TIME. I stand behind every post I made in this thread including the personal opinions and I have hundreds of documents to back up every word. Many of the members to this website and others have seen this behavior over and over on other internet social sites. Any member of the AHS Email Robin can search the archives and see the messages posted by BRAD BEST (if you don't know how tmail me). NGA members who were once a part of the wildly popular MyDaylilies site will remember the years of crazy rants that eventually chased people away. What was once a bustling hang out for everything and everyone daylilies... no longer exists. To those NGA members who have no clue of this battle, I truly am sorry to have to air this here, BUT this is "my turf" and BRAD BEST brought the fight to me personally. I will not sit back and take it. I owe it not only to myself but to every member who comes into the Daylily Forum to know that I WILL NOT stand for anyone being treated this way as long as I am moderator. (and control the magic buttons).
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EDIT: Tet list is NOT complete! My main focus has been on diploid and I just haven't had time to maintain/update this list.
EDIT: Be warned there is some pollen sterility in the diploid bearded/cristate hybridized lines.
EDIT: Sculpted cristate is the currently recognized AHS definition for the appendages seen on "bearded" daylilies. There is some contention on this language with certain hybridizers. Because I want to be as impartial as possible I often try to refer to "bearded" daylilies as bearded/cristate in an attempt to make all parties happy. If you are searching for anything Brad Best online it will be under "bearded". On the AHS website and on here "cristate" will be the key to finding information.
Long post is long! Sorry I'm new and have been researching a bit about this, not sure if all in one post is appropriate or not.
I just got into daylilies two years ago but I've had a decent collection of Bearded Iris and other lilies in my gardens for a long time. My mother and grandmother were big fan's of bearded Iris's which I inherited! I'm a huge fan of the bearded daylilies since I discovered the massive variety of dayliles in the last year or so. I wasn't able to find a lot of centralized data about them though. It looks like Brad Best has spent a lot of time and energy developing these flowers but for those who are just starting out (like me) I thought I'd put together a list of bearded/cristate daylilies that I liked/that were within a beginners budget. I really appreciate Rich at CT Daylilies for exchanging multiple emails with me helping me get started in the right direction (and for offering great prices)!!! He also shared a picture of a beautiful bearded seedling that I hope will someday make it to market :)
TET- Tiki God, Sigourney(maybe?), Ohio Discovery- EV, Kendra Marie, Love never ends, Strikingly dramatic(maybe?), Snarky (EV-hansen 2016), Mr Tummus, Bonibrae Inner Demons (maybe)
DIP- Michaels's sword, texas feathered fancy, bees betty sue, shaggy pumpkin, bees bob baker, Greetings Earthling, Lavender Feathers, Wooster Mindcraft
Thanks to the Lily Auction I've been able to purchase some genetics whose parent plant is out of my budget or sold out;ex- Templar sword, lady patch and Emperor's crocodile. Currently Brad Best has some of his newer genetics available on the auction as well;W. Axl Rose (dip), Sweet (dip), and Blondie's Lipstik (dip -wow this is beautiful!).
Michael's sword was developed via BEE's BETTIE SUE' x 'LAVENDER BLUE BABY. Brad Best mentioned Barbra Mitchell have genetics that can produce beards. Joan Senior (one of Bee's Betty Sue's parents also likely has similar genetics). Parents of Emperor's Crocodile are (Pixie Pinwheel Party) x (Emerald Starburst).
DIP-
'Bee's Bettie Sue' (Downie, 1996) - (Joan Senior × Barbara Mitchell)
'Bee's Connie Sharron' (Downie, 1998) - (Joan Senior × Barbara Mitchell)
Crimson Enigma (Burkey, 2004) - (unknown × unknown)
Michael's Sword' (Best, 2005) - (Bee's Bettie Sue × Lavender Blue Baby)
Texas Feathered Fancy (Carpenter-J., 2006) - (Lavender Blue Baby × unknown)
Bee's Bob Baker (Downie, 2007) - (Bee's Bettie Sue × sdlg)
Dan Patch (Best, 2010) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Kathy Nuttall (Daughety, 2011) - (sdlg × sdlg)
Lady Patch (Best, 2011) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Greetings Earthling (Faulkner, 2011) - (Lavender Blue Baby × sdlg)
Wyatt's Eyes (Begnaud, 2011) - (sdlg × sdlg) *
Casa de Maas (Zidonis, 2013) - (sdlg HH2009 × Kindly Light)
Wooster Mindcraft (Elliott-J., 2015) - (Lavender Blue Baby × Caribbean Whipped Cream)*
Templar Sword (Best, 2015)- (Michael's Sword × sdlg)*
Ten Thousand Angels (Best, 2015) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Immaculata (Best, 2015) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Heaven (Best, 2015) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Shroud of Turin (Best, 2015) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Gladiator's Shield (Best, 2015) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
One Nation Under God (Best, 2015) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Unknown Soldier (Best, 2015)- (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Emperor's Crocodile (Gossard, 2016) - (Pixie Pinwheel Party × Emerald Starburst)
Lavender Feathers (Reeder, 2016) - (Texas Feathered Fancy × Lavender Blue Baby)*
W. Axl Rose (Best, 2016)- (Michael's Sword × Templar Sword)
Shake It Off (Best, 2016) - Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Pepperland (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Sweet (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Believe (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Man in the Mirror (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Anti-gravity (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Bearded Chameleon (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Beatlemania (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Blondie's Lipstick (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Kiss (Best, 2016) - (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
The Fab Four (Best, 2016)- (Michael's Sword × sdlg)
Two Headed Firedragon (Gossard, 2017) - (Red Scorpion × Heavenly Spider Monkey)
TET-
Added Attractions (Hanson-C., 2006) - (Instant Karma × Life on Bajore)
Biltmore Design (Hensley-D., 2010) - (Biltmore Style × Redbird Mary)
Appliqué Prism (Pierce-G., 2013) - (((sdlg × Tet. Terry Lyninger) × Tet. Malachite Prism) × Tet. Time Stopper)
Beach Sand (Gluck, 2013) - (Elizabeth Ann Gluck × Sherry Candy)
Beast of Bamburgh (Rich, 2014) - (Doc Webster × Heman)
After the Riot (Davisson-J., 2015) - (Little Big Ears × Sigourney)
'Beyond Origami' (Rich, 2016) - (West of the Moon × The Wonder Emporium)
A Different Kinda Buzz (Rich, 2016) - ((Man in the Maze × Jerry Hyatt) × In Taffeta Patterns)
I've also bought a few hybridized crosses with bearded genetics on facebook/LA that I'm looking forward to playing with.
Record keeping for beginners;
The thread "Daylily Record Keeping" in
Daylilies forum
Searching on here led me to an article by Char;
https://garden.org/ideas/view/...
Additional info from Char;
http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_d...
http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_d...
Information on flowering oddities by Admmad.
The thread "Unidentified Flowering Oddities" in
Daylilies forum
I'm not a geneticist but it appears that Lavender Baby Blue is an essential base plant for developing the beard (and an awesome parent wow 309 registered offspring!).
If anyone wanted to share some of their trials or experiences with bearded daylily hybridization I'd love to hear. Any experience with bearded genetics in the north would be appreciated as well. It appears most of the older dip bearded genetics I'll be playing with are dormant and shouldn't have issues here in Wisconsin. If anyone had dip or tet bearded plants they thought I should add to my list please post so I can update this list for anyone starting out and interested in the bearded look!
End long post :)
Chris
@char
*disclaimer*[I had contacted Brad Best about his website not being updated as I was interested in some older bearded genetics which I was hoping would be more affordable, and to see how his program and grown and developed. He said he didn't have plans for updating as of now and was working on selling his new genetics which I understand. I also inquired about older A, B, and C listed seeds he had for sale on his facebook page and was told they were no longer available]
