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Dec 13, 2017 10:09 PM CST
Waukesha (Zone 5a)
admmad said:'Wyatt's Eyes' was registered with the seedling number LBB F2 04. My interpretation of that seedling number is that LBB stands for 'Lavender Blue Baby' and the cross that produced 'Wyatt's Eyes' was an F2 cross.
So 'Wyatt's Eyes' would be ('Lavender Blue Baby' x daylily Z) X ('Lavender Blue Baby' x daylily Z). Quite possibly a self-pollination of ('Lavender Blue Baby' x daylily Z).
'Wyatt's Eyes' looks very much like 'Lavender Blue Baby' except for the cresting.


That would actually be quite funny Smiling Either way I'm going to see if I can find a clump to play with. Thank you for your thoughts on the seedling number. It's not something I would have looked at.

admmad said:@Cpschult I have grown LBB for fifteen years and have never seen any cresting on it so I would say that it never expresses. LBB may or may not actually have a mutation for cresting.
Cresting is a genetic effect that suffers from what is called incomplete penetrance and variable expressivity. Some plants that have the appropriate genetics to show the effect will never show it and others will show it sometimes and in different manners. What it basically means is that the visible cresting effect is very strongly determined by the environment and any number of other genes present (and possibly different) in each individual.
LBB may have a mutation for cresting but the rest of its genotype prevents it being shown or it might be the exact opposite in that LBB may not have the mutation but it has the necessary genotype to allow cresting to be expressed more frequently in the seedlings produced when LBB is crossed with a plant that does have the mutation.


Are you a plant biologist? Curious if there was any basic research you would recommend reading for this. I have a biology degree but that was over 10 years ago and I've worked in quality since then. I need to get back to my biology roots Smiling I need to figure out an easy way to track crosses and results via excel. I've seen some good reviews on plantstep but not sure how serious I want to get lol... Guess if I'm talking about tracking in excel I'm already pretty serious.

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