Thanks for that info, Larry. I knew I was having a disconnect somewhere. I do believe this I was just given is similar to yours. I recall the gentleman had a large clump or two of it (and I do mean large). I thought to myself at the time that it didn't look too weedy. If these starts live, I'm going to give it a try. Worst case scenario, it certainly won't be the only weed I have in my yard.