Polly, thank you for the information about the co-ops. I will keep them in mind. Now that I think of it, Van Engelen also offers really great prices on a handful of orientals, 'Casa Blanca' among them. Something like 25 bulbs for $43 or 50 for $77. It might be fun to do a mass planting of these even if they do turn out to be annuals for me. That will have to wait until next year though since my current budget can't absorb any more new lilies
The other lilies I received from Van Engelen this fall were all huge and healthy bulbs, many even with live roots. Their Lilium speciosum rubrum and album bulbs were just as nice if not nicer than those that came from OHG, and OHG also sources their speciosums from Holland. I felt lucky that Van Engelen is also selling 'Anastasia' this fall (25 for $43), so of course I had to cave in. I just hope they are correctly labeled and it does not turn out to be some inferior Dutch clone with an 'Anastasia' label slapped on it.
Other orientals that I find to be very appealing are 'Journey's End' and 'Allegra'. I love their flower forms and coloring. Probably neither of these will ever be made available again, but I would grow them in a heartbeat. 'Salmon Star', Buggy's Queen series, 'July Snow' and Lilium auratum vav. platiphyllum (sp?) also look like beautiful flowers to me.