Viewing post #1745930 by Cpschult

Char said:That was a bit rude to the many hybridizers of northern hardy Tet cristate cultivars.... just trying to help you and others who may be reading this thread search for dormant and/or hardy cristate forms.

Yes, I agree Tet cristates need work, so do lots of things, but the dormancy, northern hardiness from northern hybridizers and color other than gold/melon/polychrome is there to start with... which are things you said you weren't aware of. Starched Petticoats will be a great addition to work in with all the other previously registered cristate cultivars and sdlgs. Another thing to keep in mind is that hybridizing in the north is a longer process than the south and northern hybridizers are working their sdlgs 4, 5 or more years ahead of what you might currently see registered. There are many good things to come!
Sadly much of the attention to the Best intro's is due to the nasty attitude & bullying being inserted into any conversation about cristate forms and the constant barrage of misinformation posted to the internet over the past 10 years.The dips are not without problems. Almost all the Best intro's are pollen sterile. Plant habit of the Best plants need work as well, the ones I have are small weak growers even though he claims they have been through tough northern conditions and they are not recommended for growing in the south. Southern cristate dips can be tender in the north and some of these also have the sterile pollen issues. Although there are other hybridizers besides Mr. Best making great progress with the dips, Mike Derrows program is very impressive... dips need work too.
The cristate forms are starting to gain interest now that they are an accepted Form of daylily. Hybridizing Sculpted cristate forms really is not much different then hybridizing any other form of daylily...we are all trying to improve the form with the plants we currently have available.

To be clear, the attention on Brad's new intro's are not due his "nasty attitude and bullying" but because they are gorgeous and stunning flowers. Period.

It appears a lot of bearded/cristate plants are pollen sterile. Mike Derrow is having similar issues.

I'd love to hear if anyone else is noticing that trend with their hybrization trials with bearded/cristate genetics.