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Nov 23, 2011 2:38 PM CST
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Anemone berlandieri (synonym: Anemone heterophylla )

Common name: Tenpetal thimbleweed, Ten-petaled anemone, Wind-flower

I think the epithet “thimbleweed” is very suggestive.

For identification, I use different books I have, and of course their information available on the internet.
However often it is not easy to identify. I'm just an amateur. I try to make identifications as well but an error is always possible.
When trying to identify a plant, after reaching a conclusion, I make comparisons between similar species are listed in the area where I found the plant. If they are. Comparisons are made ​​in limited sources available, my books and the Internet.

I taken the pictures of this Annemone two years ago. Before to load here the pictures a review my identification.
Frequantly I use and this site:
http://www.wildflower.org/

(Is a very good site.)

Making comparisons with Anemone caroliniana, from the pages below

http://www.wildflower.org/gall...
(bracts are very close below the flower)

and

http://www.wildflower.org/gall...
(bracts are located in the upper half of peduncle)

I become little confused about my initial identification.


So I begin to read again about the Anemone, especially about Anemone berlandieri and Anemone caroliniana and compare with pictures find on internet.

So:
1.The two species appear very similar to me.

2.I found both species mentioned in the area where I took pictures. (but in the book “The Spring Flowers by Mabel Jaques Cuthbert” the map of area of Anemone caroliniana my pictures location, Beeville, Tx, seem to be a little more south for the limit o Anemone caroliniana, but close)
3.In the book "Plants of the Texas Coastal Bend" Roy.L.Lehman written by Ruth O'Brien and Tammy White (pag.237) key difference between the two species is given by the position of whorl of leaves on peducle. Thus:
- for Anemone berlandierii position is above the middle of peduncle
and
below the middle of peduncle for Anemone caroliniana

I find similar information and in the other source on internet.

Now I am again sure about my identification: Anemone berlandieri.

Well the life is not easy for an amator if he want to have a corect identification. All that taken me few days to read,. But I think that is a part of our fun.

So pay attention on bracts (modified leaves on the flower stalk).
In some of my pictures is difficult to do a good estimate to the position of bracts. In some of my pictures is difficult to do a good estimate to the position of bracts. But in some pictures, is not doubt for me.

Identification errors are quite common in the photos on the internet.
I think you have searched several sources of information. And to compare


What confused me about the picture on this page

http://www.wildflower.org/gall...

was the mention: This image has been verified.

I was quite intrigued. I was curious to read what it says on the label.

(The "Ctrl +" can enlarge in Firefox Mozilla display.)
On the first label, the top, write Anemone berlandieri.
On the second label, down, larger, write: Anemone caroliniana. Caroliniana word is strikethrough by a line. Is true, the strikethrough, is not very clear.
I think the one that checked photo identification has done well, but instead an error occurred loading the picture on page.


About the other three photos on page
http://www.wildflower.org/gall...
I think they are Anemone berlandieri. But for these three images it is the mention: "This image HAS Not Been Verified."
If one of us is contributing to the site above, perhaps it is a good idea to be contacted and made the observation on the Anemone caroliniana photos.

Here
http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scri...

and here
http://www.kansasnativeplants....

you can see good picture of Anemone caroliniana. To remark the position of bracts. Sometimes very close to the base of peduncle. On last page you can see and how much similar could be with Anemone berlandieri.

I am curious about others opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.

I prefer to be fair and present my doubts. There would be nothing to learn if I do not present the situation correctly. As far as I know.


Here
http://www.bio.utexas.edu/cour...
you can see very good pictures of Anemone berlandieri.


Next I will present the pictures.
I will load not only the best pictures. Maybe some pictures are not very good. I take pictures in two ways. Some on manual mode and some on automatic mode. Usual in manual mode they are more good. But not necessarily. To some I pay attention to the quality ,on the other I take quick just thinking me they can help me in identification. Sometimes I am in the lack of time so this have result in a low quality of pictures. Sometimes I am in a "bad luck" and if I take one hundred of pictures I am not very satisfied.

I took pictures at two locations close to each other, situated on the edge of Beeville city, Texas.
Photos taken on February 20, 2010.

At first I found this

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I was a little disappointed thinking that I was too late and the flowers are past. But I started to photograph.

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But soon, just after a few steps, the show began.

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Some pictures to see the difference between bracts and leaves at the base

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Some pictures of a whole. The dominant color of the flower was white. Hundreds of sparkling white Anemone. As diamonds

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Of course, and the colored flowers shone. Like gems.

But this ...

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I was amazed at the color. Shining dark blue. The color of the picture is exactly like the one I saw just in the nature the flower was more shining.

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Later I'll try to load the pictures take on 21 februarie 2010. It is not so much pictures (because a lack of time). I'm afraid to not be too many photos displayed in a single post. I hope you can see well this post. If not, you give me a feedback.
Justin

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