Thank you for the welcome Julie!
Sculpted forms and Unusual forms are very different in many ways.One of these is how the form delevops within the bud. In Sculpted forms the shape is already present within the bud, while the pinching and quilling of Unusual forms is not present in the bud and happens after the bloom opens and is exposed to heat. The extreme pleating seen in Julie's seedling is the result of structural changes to the cell layers within the petal which cause multiple folds in the petal. Another unique feature sometimes seen with extreme pleating, and which is not seen in UF's, is the petal edges continue to grow upward, seperated from the rest of the petal and up the back of the petal, in a back-to-back effect of petal tissue. You can see this in the right hand image of Julie's seedling. In quilled or pinched Unusual form cristates this does not happen. In the quilling of UF's the narrow petals are curved inward toward the back of the petal begining at the midrib to the edges, there is no folding as is seen in the pleated Sculpted forms. I do not consider heat to be a factor in the formation of any Sculpted forms, but it is a factor in creating the shape of Unusual forms.
Fred, I do hope that when/if you register your seedling you consider the definitions for Sculpted pleated and cristate. I'm planning on using your HB45 seedling from the LA with the cristates and pleated cristates I have.Maybe in a year or two I will have something exciting to post on here from it.
I agree Julie! So much so that I used Curt's Nude Yoga and Mork And Mindy with some UF's this year. I really like how the sepals on your seedling recurve to expose the pleats and this would certainly enhance a fireworks or fountain look to the flower.
A narrow petaled, pleated Sculpted form adding to the differences in forms that we are talking about.
