*sigh* one of these days I hope to see blooms on my hoya's. Preferably before I die. For one, it's been in the same pot for 5 years, and winds back and forth three times on a 6 foot long window, making the vine about 18 feet long. Still not a single bloom, and it is suppose to get great big large red fragrant blooms, can't remember the name of it, it has been so long since I planted it...lol! I've put pictures of it up here before...