@Calif_Sue, It's 'cause we messaged & my typing can be absolutely awful ! ( that last "l', was almost a "k". Wouldn't that have been "worse" ! ? What I do, is usually type into the "note" with the photo about the flower, as confusion can take place, when I add to the Database. It stated as color ; red. & I'm sitting here thinking that can't be it , as it's more "purple", but was going through the cultivars, to try & get it right. zuzu helped out as she "gets" my way of thinking & I was adding several tree peonies, I'd grown... It's all good now.