You can get seeds from (I went blank) (It is that big seed Co. in UK)
Then plant them in Nov., in WS jug, and you will have some by Apr., Then it takes three years before any flower, and you will feel like you are loosing them, until the second year, then they get going. Mike T&M, is the seed co.
Oh, and this is for E. Paradoxia.Worth the trouble, and don't water too much.
Don't you love my mind? Mike