You Guys are just to nice. Here are the ones that have been treated, sent back to James and I, and were not converted. Lillian's Womans Touch, Philippi, and Lillian's Thin Ice. We will pick up a full conversion of LTIce in March. I think Michele should learn to do this, shes in this daylily stuff for the long haul, shes young, shes good at anything she wants to do, and we have an unlimited supply of plants to practice on. We already know where we can get lessons free of charge, I will even supply the gas and let you ride in my Oddsey.