Good to see David and Doris here, two of the nicest people in the daylily world. I know of only one other person that does the injection conversions, he has killed a lot less of them but hasn't done it long enough to see if any are converted. Here is a photo to show the difference when I was converted. Not all will be this extreme, you will notice not all the segments are on the converted one and they are much wider. This bloom is what made me think I had at least a partial conversion when I saw it. When the other fan bloomed it look very similar and both turned out to be full conversions. Another thing that was happening with the tet, with those wide pedals it would start to open the evening before, so I would bring the bud inside to let it open to keep the pollen dry. I did set a few seed with it and will see them bloom this season.