That's a good one, Robin! Hopefully you will not have to do either to acquire VJ or its seeds.
Steve, I think this topic is going to come back for as long as there are new admirers of Victoria Josephine and its offspring!
"I am just a lucky guy who gets play out in the yard." I play around the yard too but I certainly don't come close getting the results that you do.
While I wait for my magic touch to manifest, I can dream about it with these lovely blooms that I was very lucky to acquire on faith 4 years ago.
Steve!
Garden name "Enchanted" seedling from Confessions of a Hemaholic x Davi's Gift