don't worry Karen you are not alone.. mine look straggly as well.. going to pot the mommas up and take cuttings on the ones I can.. we are in the same boat with a bunch of leaf drop.. I have some scented geranium cuttings that are so over grown .. going to do that this weekend and start some seeds.. I always kick myself for not pinching sooner to have more cuttings.. one of these years I will remember .. I might do a NC farms order again this year.. always nice having trays of the same kind and won't break the bank.. but usually breaks my back doing those for a few days