Krazyquilter, I hope to modify spacing in AL, they will need it there. Problem is I need to move almost all my remaining plants this fall and preparing enough beds is going to be a challenge. The native soil is hard clay and there simply isn't enough time to amend so I'll be using mainly raised beds, some behind retaining walls on a hill but the largest on a gentle slope. We added 40 yards of soil last fall and I still had to space the ones I moved then far too close together for my liking. Trying to emulate what Carol Adelman did in Oregon, basically planting at native soil levels in large, mounded rows on the gentle slope. With all of the stay at home orders and travel bans we haven't been out there since January, getting anxious to start on those beds. Hoping to be out there by the end of this month.