SoCalGN, thanks for the suggestion. I've a few questions. Data base says Molineux gets bushy and stay short 2-3'. Does it stay that way for u and is it a prolific bloomer? Does it come back or not until fall will u get another nice flush? How big does Lycidas get for you? I will be moving quite a few in the fall. So I'm trying to make a list of ones I'd like to have and where to put it in the garden. I'm open to any color at this point. Will figure out the color scheme once I've a list of roses that thrive in SoCal heat. Thanks!!!