Neal, you're so generous! I have Black Gamecock, but would love the Sinfonietta as well as the tall phlox. I won't have time to get those caryopteris(es) (ii?) in the mail to you until later in the week. I'll check with you on Thurs. and we'll square things then. Okay? Fixin' to, I love it! Only us southerners use that term!