Karen, I just realized I hadn't read your first message correctly. I had read that you wanted a cloner but I realized you wrote that you did not have or want a cloner. You know what is so nice about these message forums is that there's always somebody out there that is always willing to help or has had experience in propagation or growing from seeds,etc and willing to share their knowledge and experience with other gardeners.
Clint, what other plants have you had success in layering?
What about clematis?