minus 24c with windchill, we are into those cold winter days but nice to see days getting longer...a sure sign spring will arrive....weedwacker, i noticed you indicated you grow geraniums from seed, i love geraniums but buy them as bedding plants and sometimes make cuttings of the ones i bought, if you live in upper pennisula mich we should be similar in temps/zone do your geraniums from seed actually grow into full plants by mid july?, never considered growing from seed but maybe will try