Fred, I love seeing your new format of showing both parents and the seedling. One just never knows what you are going to get with the gene pool in the parents. I realize it takes a long time to put these threephotos together into one photo, complete with labels. Maybe for your special seedlings you might want to do this. One thing with which I continue use to be amazed is the color of your Elisa Dallas X Orange Grove seedlings. Where did the dark color come from? Neither parent is nearly that dark!