Hirt's Gardens (through Amazon). I've gotten a few seeds from them in the past and had no problems. And the seed packet had a 2011 date on it, so I'm really surprised they didn't grow. Second batch isn't doing anything either. Got a third batch soaking today. Darn it, I really wanted yellow ones. Got a specific place I wanted to put them. Anyone got any spare yellow Four O'clock seeds? sniff.