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Jul 13, 2021 11:39 AM CST
Name: Sol Zimmerdahl
Portland, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Container Gardener Garden Art Sempervivums
Alex,
I think that what we have in the case of my brown flowered seedling is the overlay of two very strongly colored parents, one a very deep pink and one a very dark yellow. Of course this is just a guess, 'Olivette' was raised from bee pollenated seed and so is my seedling, so there really isn't much known history to go on. I do recall 'Olivette's blooms to be oddly formed and a sort of dull/dark pink, there's obviously some marmoreum in the mix and those usually have some very deep pink flowers.

Lynn,
I have a number of seedlings in orange and yellow tones and I hope to cross this one with all of them, 'Goldmarie' is blooming again and I may use that as well. Unfortunately 'Goldmarie' has low quality pods so I won't bother fussing with trying to spread its pollen on that one and I'll have to do the cross the other way if I do it at all, which will cut in on the flowers I'll be able to self. I might see if I have anything with golden flowers blooming now to cross it with, but nothing comes to mind.
I did most of my crossing early this year working on the velvet types, and I'm not preforming a ton of crosses now because I figure I've already filled up whatever space I'll have next year with a fresh crop of velvet seedlings. Still, I do feel an obligation to use the seedlings I have which have made the cut so far. All the others are just here to provide me with options at this point.

Kevin,
Those are certainly some very clean yellow flowers. Very pretty. It does seem consistent with many pure species not to have any of the anthocyanin in the bloom. Those Remind me of ciliosum in that sense, just yellow instead of green.
I took a quick look at ruthenicum in our database, in the images we have it looks like there's that touch of pink at the center of the flowers, though the images could be incorrect. Those images remind me of 'Soft Line', a plant whose derivative species I've always wondered about, maybe it's a ruthenicum. In any case it'd be neat to see longer hair on the form and color of your toothpicks.
My latest velvet species to try is this summer is kosaninii, the flowers are very light and have some green to them, it'll be a fun one to integrate into my hybrids…
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-Sol

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