Dennis616 said:
Thanks for this info! 
I have seen what Stelter has been doing, and maybe he's on to something and generating a lot of interest. 
This really is just a fun "side project" for me-- and am just curious if I was successful that maybe the resulting kids would generate interest and I should make it a focus
Every year lots of pods start but quickly abort. Every year a couple hang on longer, teasing me, but eventually abort....
If you could get Pollen of Heavenly New Frontiers (pentaploid), this might work.
My experience in crossing with species is: most of the seedlings are disappointing - if there is something special still hidden in their genetics you need a lot of patience to bring it out.
Growing like weed is not really a feature for a garden plant - making runners and spreading through beds like H. fulva Europa isn't either.
