[quote="ndmpkt13"]@antman1- I'm not sure Supersemp 'Ruby' is the same as 'Ruben'. When that patent is reviewed, Ruby was discovered in 2014 which is 2 years after Ruben.
By the way, true cultivar names are written in single quotes, as in Sempervivum 'Ruben', per the international Code of Nomenclature. Trademark names never use single quotes, they are written without quote marks and in all CAPS, with a little "tm" mark to indicate it's a registered trademark name, almost anything goes with this horrible infraction of botanical latin, including duplicate names. 'Ruby' was named in named in 1975, the name RUBY (all caps) as a trademark name is bogus yet allowed because it's designated as a TRADEMARK name where anything goes, even if duplicate. People confuse the rules, and will say RUBY tm, is same as 'Ruby' a true cultivar name. The nightmare of trademark names get worse and worser.
