A couple of roses I'm surprised that is so happy is either Sheila's Perfume or Melodie Parfumee. Both of those roses (which, ironically, are right next to each other) are about 5' and about 2-2.5' around. MASSIVE upright roses. Sheila gets only morning/noon sun, but Melodie Parfumee gets up until about 430 sun. Both are pretty close to the house, so there's the protection-from-hard-winter-wind factor. However, Cherish, which sits directly between the two, is a pathetic little sprig. Two of my Sterling Silvers & Red Golds are in the same row as Sheila.. they're doing quite well as well. Actually everyone in the front yard for the most part is doing quite well except for that poor CH.. I didn't even realize there was a rose there until it bloomed! The vinca there is over a foot tall and extremely mounding. It's a weed there. I've thinned it out, but it still keeps going crazy. The reason why it's going crazy there is because when I water my mini bed or my shadow corner, all the run off goes down the sidewalk & drains right *there*, so it gets plenty of water versus everyone else.