Knock Outs definitely do better for me than Hybrid teas! Over the years I've had many Hybrid teas - at first because they were most available locally and later because they were given to me - few of them survive today. They usually look great for the first year or two and then die off cane by cane growing smaller each year until they're gone. I'm just glad to have a couple of near-by nurseries that sell old garden roses that can tolerate my standard of "care".