I haven't used it. I believe 3 & 4 are silver ice as pod. My notes on pictures are poor this year. I've used to the contrary quite a bit.
Had queen mum but she was a no bloom last year. I ordered 3 or 4 new ones last year of Paul's. Looking forward to using them this year!. I started this whole program with my fantasy and say red. So I've had a lot of work to do on form. That's where crossing with talls came in and Paul's plants.