Daisy, I'm a little confused by your reply. My confusion was your use of the term "they aren't the wild species anymore"? Are they not still the same genus and species as the progenitor, the 'wild parents'? In reality, wouldn't all PCI cultivars that are being registered also be 'inclusive' under the page for I douglasiana? The only reason to have separate pages here and on other forums like AIS encyclopedia is to assist us in being able to differentiate variants which is helpful from a historical perspective and also preference if one is inclined to grow a particular hybrid for it's bloom color, particular growth characteristics, etc. Am I still confused and misguided? Thanks so much, and I'm sorry for any confusion, and or headaches I may have caused by not thinking this through and doing more homework before posting my query.