Alright...add the Kimo, I love both! You can thank Hetty for it with all those beautiful pics! How big a pot do they need to be in at first and for the first few years maybe? These will be my first plants that I have to bring in over the winter. Wonder if my cats are going to like them... I've got some figuring out to do for sure... no basement (darned southern style houses), so putting them somewhere at '40 or 45' degrees to go dormant could be as challenging as keeping them indoors and going...