What Lorn said. I do not disagree with even one sentence. Add to that also the possibility that seed may not even be viable to begin with. I've had species seed not germinate until the third year! Presently, I am having a dickens of a time trying to get L. chalcedonicum to germinate in a ziplock with vermiculite. They seem healthy, plump, I can easily see the embryo (which by BTW, turns white when the seed is plump and translucent), but they just won't budge no matter what I try!