perhaps I'll try digging the hole out before I buy the tree, that might be a good idea. I do have a hydrangea and some boxwoods there that seem to do okay. They don't grow alot but they look nice. I do water them extra, I have never fertilized them though. I won't mind if it doesn't grow alot, as long as it looks healthy. I was thinking the root competition may keep it from growing too large for that spot. Although the space is pretty good sized.