Thanks, Vic. I think Mr. P's property had great potential for my kind of perennial gardening, starting with a lot of sun, a lot of space, a sprinkler system and a free hand. My part: learning on the job and, of course, labour. In his classes, David always stressed the ongoing learning component of perennial gardening.
Sunny, I never thought of that, 'Nora Leigh' as a small October shrub.