Now I feel bad for all the seeds that were not plump that I tossed. Clearly if these were not Borderexdenia's seeds I would have tossed these thinking they are empty or dud seeds without even trying to germinate.
that is why soaking (and now the wet paper method) is a good extra step for me since I don't have time to pot them up until this weekend.
These were in the toss pile too, and I just picked them up to soak, only 2 are duds! The rest plumped up, soaked last night.