My first post kinda of scary but here goes. Favorite rudbeckia is goldquelle. For one thing here in northern Illinois it's still blooming on Nov 19th and is always the last man standing along with some roses. It has a beautiful double yellow flower and many of them. Foliage stays cleaner than many others that I've tried rather attractive actually. It also returns yeh, unless one of them is in a bad spot that was just too wet. Just planted Triloba and Henry Eilers but can't comment till they've been here a while. Since they can handle moister soil I am hoping they will survive a wet winter. That is if we ever get any moisture again! Anyway I've been reading here a lot and just wanted to share something. Pat