Well, Lynn, don't feel like the Lone Ranger. I've planted three P. incarnata here and none have survived. They are the state wildflower of Tennessee and grow wild around here. I was frustrated until someone told me that they can be very difficult to get started and established in the ground here. But once established, look out. They can be rampant growers. So I am gong to try again. I'll eventually get it. I'm determined.